Due to the denim's raw unwashed state, you can expect around 1-3% shrinkage when the denim is soaked in water or washed. They will also stretch between a half and one-and-a-half sizes depending on how snug they are to begin with. We recommend sizing down one size from your normal pant size for the best fit. FYI John Graham Mellor (21 August 1952 - 22 December 2002), best remembered by his stage name Joe Strummer, was the co-founder, lyricist, rhythm guitarist and lead vocalist of the critically acclaimed English punk rock band The Clash.